[ARCHIVED THREAD] - M16A1 vs. M16A2 receiver differences. A1, A2, A3 and A4 Similarities and Differences The M4’s major advantages are size and modularity. For some, this has been asked and answered already. While this may help for differentiating between the two for civilian purposes, this isn’t at all true. The M16 was designed as an assault rifle aimed at maximum firepower. If the game were an FPS, then differences between the two would be more relevant.  The nerd in us can’t allow those times to talk about gun history a pass!!! The carbine trimmed out at 6.7 pounds and has all the handling characteristics of its government-issue cousin.  The M4’s usually come flat-topped with some sort of rail system (M1913 Picatinny, Key-mod, M-Lock, etc.). The question is simple. Where you see the changes is the length of the barrel (the M4 is shorter) and the trigger mechanisms. ©2020 Outdoor Sportsman Group. The M14 shoots 7.62x51 ammo and that is one of the primary points of contention when claiming the M16/AR15 is the better gun.  Again, this is one of those features that made it a more attractive option for the Armed Forces. There are many reasons for reloading for your handguns. The wide field of view and clean, crisp dot makes it easy for users to find and track the dot in both target and competitive shooting applications. Mags, P-Mags, Lancer, DD, and the list goes on!!!!). Let’s face it, anybody who has been in the military in the last 40 years has been told that the great thing about the 5.56 is that you can shoot an enemy in the hip and the round will bounce around and a piece of it … Woody Rowe, SFC Retired, US Army. Pocket carry, as a method of concealed carry for a defensive firearm, can be a practical option when done right. Today - the 'bee's knee's' of the M-16 series rifle is the 'Designated Marksman Rfile'. Actually the M16A2 was first adopted by the Marine Corps in 1983 and the Army in 1986. Do you need a Sling for your M16/M4/AR-15?  Which is probably for the best!!! And as always….remember to watch your six and stay low!!!  Both rifles accept any standard STANAG magazine (which includes G.I. The M16 and M4 are essentially the same platform. Trijicon's new RMRcc features the durability and reliable controls that have made the RMR so successful, but its reduced dimensions make the “Concealed Carry” model better suited for the popular small-frame pistols designed for discreet carry and personal defense. Short burst selection wasn’t available until the A2 came out around 1990.   On the M16 you would usually find a solid stationary stock, while on the M4 the stock is usually collapsible (to provide better purchase of the rifle based on shooter preference). That said, the M14 has also stood the test of time and remains a go-to weapon of choice in some circles.  Once again, leading to the selection of this rifle over the M16. No sir the m16 and m4 did not lead it offering the ar15 for civilians.  Historically, we want you to understand that both of the rifle platforms, the M16 and the M4 carbine, are semi-automatic rifles that were born right here in the dear ole’ United States. The M16 has been America's service rifle for more than 50 years, and that history is certainly hard to ignore in this debate. Yes, there is a difference: mostly a bunch of small changes, which add up to distinctly better operation. Most serious CQB/SWAT, hostage rescue, or special operations use M4/M16's or some type of variant in 5.56.  In 1994, the United States Armed Forces decided to replace the M16 with the M4 (produced by Colt under the name XM4). Many people will tell you that an AR15 is semi-auto only, and the M16 is full-auto. Jamila….before we get started, understand that these two platforms are very similar in nature, as you can easily tell from the picture above! The M4 has a 1/7 twist in a 14.5in barrel, an adjustable stock, removable carry handle, and most importantly it has M4 feed ramps which make it more reliable. Colt military models. There are more than 5 newer iron sets on the market. First and foremost a full auto rated M16 bolt carrier group cannot make your gun full auto. Do a web search on differences between M16 and M4. By the early 1950s, it had entered widespread service throughout the Red Army.After World War II, the U.S. Army initially focused its firearms development on semi-automatic rifles, which resulted in the M14. The M14 shoots 7.62x51 ammo and that is one of the primary points of contention when claiming the M16/AR15 is the better gun. The M4 uses 80% of the M16’s parts which make them nearly interchangeable.   Most of you wacky gun-nuts that follow the PSA blog know that we love to get questions from our readers. Want to start a good argument? !  We look forward to shooting the breeze with you soon again!! What's the difference between the AR-15 and the M16, a military weapon? He told Marine Corps Times that, in his experience, the only practical difference is … (404) 981-4925, NRA Basics of Personal Protection Inside the Home, Maintaining Safety within the Organization. AR-15 AK-47 Handgun Precision Rifles Armory Training Competitive Shooting General Outdoors Archery Hometown Industry.  This shorter barrel length made the rifle lighter (among other things), and led to the adoption of the M4 over the M16 in the mid 90’s. By Robert Bruce “In Vietnam around the end of 1965, US forces first engaged disciplined, regular troops of the North Vietnamese Army in the bloody battles of Ia Drang.  We at PSA love to talk guns, especially long guns!!!! It's in the top 3 bestselling iron sets and has dozens of popular alternatives in the same price range, such as Callaway Rogue Pro or Callaway Golf Rogue Iron.. TaylorMade M6 was released last year in February. However, if you are one of the few who legally owns a full auto M16 or converted AR 15 then you must have a full auto BCG to utilize the full auto function. The recoil was designed to be straight-line, for easier \"stay on target\" action. The M4 is smaller and more compact which lends to it being more efficient in close combat scenarios. The Springfield Armory Saint Victor chambered in .308 Winchester combines firepower with... Give a Gift   It depends if you were issued the M16a1 or M16a2, the a1 had a 1/12 twist, a2 has a 1/7 twist in the same size 20in barrel. but why do the shooters today opt for the M4, i almost always see them use M4 than the M16(baby). Differences between the M4* and the M16 are, I would think, beyond the scope of this game. In this segment of “Cameras Don't Lie,” competitive shooters Patrick Sweeney and Jim Tarr head to the range to put the vaunted loads on record, and then consider the footage. Even in countries where they make and issue AK's to mainline units they often buy M4's or some type of faster platform for their special operations units. Conclusion After the comparison between M4 and M16, we clearly see that M16 is better to use if you can handle the burst recoil properly. In fact, an M16 or full auto BCG is the most common form of BCG on the market. Watch now. The Trijicon SRO is specifically designed for pistol use. That's exactly what's happening on this Direct Fire segment from Guns & Ammo TV. Well, check out the video and see if you can determine the winner in this spirited debate. The M16 is usually identified by a longer barrel than it’s counterpart, the M4. All Rights Reserved. Peach State Armory, LLC. Colt has an intricate internal nomenclature system for its models, with a variety of suffixes and prefixes. Colt has been the most visible producer of ArmaLite AR-15 pattern weapons, and the military designations M16 and M4 are heavily associated with the company. The M14 delivers more punch and, according to its many fans, is better suited for urban fighting environments where obstacles such as steel doors, vehicles and sand bags are a serious concern. M14 vs. M16 in Vietnam. Check out our guide on building a mil-spec AR-15. The future is the piston driven 5.56 rifles and many are changing over to that system.  The M16 has a standard barrel length of 16 inches, while the M4 comes in with a barrel length of 14.5 inches standard. Â. Some of the best shooting we have experienced is done outdoors with our favorite long guns!!! Which is better? These are where the similarities between these two rifles end. Ar 15 vs m16. The differentiating of firearms is a challenge nowadays, considering the availability of hundreds of brands in the market.  If you are unfamiliar with firearms and want to learn more, PSA strongly suggests that you find, enroll, and attend a comprehensive and reputable firearms safety course. Introducing the RMRcc miniature red-dot sight for compact, concealed-carry pistols. We want to thank you for taking out the time to stop by our lane at the shooting range! It’s a unique weapon and all modern M16/M4 variants can be turned into a 5.56/40mm combo so, in essence, it’s in a category all its own. For others, the debate goes on. It is significantly shorter than an M16A2, giving it a lot of advantages. While the military still uses the M16 for some infantry applications, it is being phased out in favor of the M4, as the M4 offers distinct advantages in portability and maneuverability through its lighter weight and smaller dimensions. The AR-15 came first, in 1947; the M16 a decade later. The M14 delivers more punch and, according to its many fans, is better suited for urban fighting environments where obstacles such as steel doors, vehicles and sand bags are a serious concern. Shop for Best Price Difference Between M16 And M4 Carbine And Fully Loaded M4 Carbine . After the introduction of the M4 Carbine, it was found that the shorter barrel length of 14.5 inches also has a negative effect on reliability, as the gas port is located closer to the chamber than the gas port of the standard length M16 rifle: 7.5 inches instead of the 13 inches. AR-15 vs. M16: What's Differen Trijicon RMRcc Reflex Sight – Perfect for Optics-Ready Concealed-Carry Pistols, Trijicon's New Specialized Reflex Optics (SRO), Guns & Ammo TV: Cameras Don't Lie: 9mm vs .45 ACP. The M16 is a longer weapon and that has its advantages. Let's see how the M16 is different from the AR-15 and we'll also cover the M4 carbine. Springfield Armory's SAINT Edge Pistol may be the best AR pistol on the market. Subscriber Services. AR15.COM is the world’s largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. The leading cause that leads to the development of the M4 feed ramp is the gas pressure from the carbine gas system that is increasing along with a high cyclic rate. The easiest way to look at it is this: Every M16 is an AR15, but not all AR15s are an M16. Pulsar Thermion XG50 Thermal Riflescope - First Look, First Look: Springfield Armory Model 2020 Waypoint Bolt-Action Rifle, Springfield Armory SAINT Edge Pistol Review. Check out our guide on building a mil-spec AR-15. Guns & Ammo TV: Springfield Armory Saint Victor .308 Win. The M16 and AR-15 use the same polymer buttstock, forged buffer tube, and forged aluminum (7075-T6) in their lowers. The M16 and AR-15 use the same polymer buttstock, forged buffer tube, and forged aluminum (7075-T6) in their lowers. This is especially true during the colder months when heavy outer garments can obstruct access to a traditional waistline holster. Don't recall where it is, but there is a page that goes into excrutiating details. The age-old question, 9mm vs .45 ACP. Former U.S. Navy SEAL Jeff Gonzales, president of Trident Concepts, joins G&A contributor Kimberly Heath-Chudwin to discuss guns, training and gear, including Blackhawk's TecGrip holster that can make pocket carry more successful. TaylorMade M6 is a very popular and one of the more expensive options. The Soviets developed the AK-47 shortly after World War II. About AR15.COM.  Today we decided to answer a question from Jamila C. from Fairburn, GA.  Jamila wanted to know more about the differences between the M16 and the M4 platforms. On the other hand, the M16 (and it's civilian version AR15) is more easily toted for long distances and, according to its many fans, is far more accurate at long range. ARCHIVED; Armory » M-16. This table is only to help find a nearest equivalent sized fastener. These are where the similarities between these two rifles end. * Anyone have any idea why they changed the labelling from "M4A1" to simply "M4" when the Army currently uses mostly the M4A1 (rather than other variants)? Accuracy testing a rifle begins with building a good shooting position. M16 bolt carrier groups work in both M16s and AR 15s. So which one wins? Difference Between HK416 And M4 • Categorized under Objects | Difference Between HK416 And M4. It is because every model we come across carries typical features, making it incomparable with the others. The M16 or the M14. "How To: M1 vs. M16," hosted by Command Sergeant Major T. S. Decker (ret.). This difference makes the M4 models more apt to tactical applications. BTW, i have read somewhere that the M4 barrel has 1:7 twist and the standard M16 has 1:16 twist.. what are the advantages of having fewer "twist". The M16 has a standard barrel length of 16 inches, while the M4 comes in with a barrel length of 14.5 inches standard. In general, all you need to understand is that the M4 feed ramps include the barrel extension and upper receiver. Get a first-hand look at the comparison of the M1 and the M16 platforms. The AR-15 is basically the civilian counterpart to the M16. Let's see how the M16 is different from the AR-15 and we'll also cover the M4 carbine. |   Due to the differences in thread angles and pitches, the thread sizes shown below are not directly interchangeable with each other.  The United States Armed Forces as well as armed forces around the world now call on the M4 style rifles to protect their lives as well as the lives of the citizens that they protect. Jamila, one thing to note is that both the M16 and the M4 platforms (military rifles) led to the offering of AR style rifles for civilian use. While the military still uses the M16 for some infantry applications, it’s being phased out in favor of the M4, as the M4 offers distinct advantages in portability and maneuverability through its lighter weight and smaller dimensions. All Guns and Ammo subscribers now have digital access to their magazine content. It's available in many configurations, is more readily available on the consumer market and accessories are abundant and useful. The M4 A2 Patrolman’s Carbine in company terms is probably a close clone of the majority of basic-flavor carbines that have sold in unprecedented numbers lately. This means you have the option to read your magazine on most popular phones and tablets. The ar15 was in use long before the military adapted it. Had some time at the range to do some quick comparisons between M4 and M16, Aimpoint sight, and some other stuff. The M4 is the A4 with a 14.5" barrel and the handles designed with rails. M4 feed ramps will extend the barrel extension and the upper receiver. !  We hope that you enjoyed your stay and hope that you stop back by early and often to catch up on all PSA updates!  We truly hope that we were able to hit the target, and if you ever have any questions please don’t hesitate to shoot them our way! The people asked and Trijicon answered. B… The enemy’s ‘arm of choice’ was the AK47.  Who wants their crazy Uncle Rob to have access to an automatic fire capable rifle?!?!? ***Remember…the safest rifles are those that have an open bolt, empty chamber, and empty magazine well. M16 clearly won the comparison against M4 in long range situation since the gun has higher damage and can hit longer range than M4.  The M16, introduced into service for the American Military in 1964, was originally designed for select-fire mode (capable of being manually changed between semi-auto, short burst, and automatic fire potential). Firearms safety is all of OUR responsibility. Debates the merits of the M16 vs M14.  If you will notice, the standard M16 came with a handle on the top, used for carry purposes and even mounting specialized shooting glass. This shorter barrel length made the rifle lighter (among other things), and led to the adoption of the M4 over the M16 in the mid 90’s. "The M4 holds every quality that the M16 does: everything an M16 can do, the M4 does better." I believe the bugger spring lengths are different as well. The gas-operated direct impingement system uses a rotating bolt to strike a smaller caliber bullet (5.56x45mm) than what was used in the M14, allowing for higher magazine loads (more bullets) and faster rounds. To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. Their key difference is size. The M16 or the M14. 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